power windows stopped working

2003 FORD EXPLORER
95,000 MILES • V8 • 4WD • AUTOMATIC
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BILLGERVASI
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all buttons, all doors stopped working at same time

MY OWNERS MANUAL DOES NOT LIST ANY FUSES FOR POWER WINDOWS.
Sorry caps does show a 3 0amp circuit breaker which is good.
Power door locks work, just not any window controls.
Interior lights gauges, glove box light all work.

Yea my main driver side window buttons work, but not the passenger buttons. I just have no idea with my window thanks for you help. Now me and this guy need you help with our windows.

Any thoughts? Anybody?
Oct 11, 2010 at 5:45 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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You need to check if there is power to the switch on the driver's door. That is the main switch. If there isn't, check to see if there is a wiring issue where the wiring comes between the door and the door frame.

If you are getting power to the main switch and not the other switches, there has to be a break in the wiring between the two. Have you checked the wiring between the doors and the door frames?

Let me know what you find.
Oct 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM
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THOBACK
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no i havent. my driver side door is not the original door to the car. it was totaled back in 07 and rebuilt and this door was takin off another explorer...
Oct 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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That is where you need to start. My guess is there is a break in the wiring, or when the door was replaced, something was spliced and has come apart. Is there power to the primary switch on the driver's door?

Check out this guide

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/electric-window-repair

Please run down this guide and report back.
Oct 24, 2010 at 9:34 PM
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BILLGERVASI
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I originally started this thread, I am still trying to locate a wiring diagram so I can try and probe the switches for power and/or continuity. All power door locks work.
No power window's work. power window circuit breaker is good. time delay relay appears good.

When I took off the panel all I can see are multiple switches some with 6 t0 8 wires leading out. I don't know which is main switch which wire is main feed. That's why I have been asking where I can try to find a schematic.
Drivers door power locks work. Isn't that the same feed for power windows?

any thoughts?
Oct 25, 2010 at 7:49 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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There are two seperate power supplies. One is switched through the ignition and the other is hot all the time. I could try to send a schematic if you have a way to enlarge it.
Oct 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM
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BILLGERVASI
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broken ground wire found drivers door

Yes but I never lost power to auto locks, thats what I couldn't understand
Oct 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Thanks for letting me know. I had a feeling it would be something like that to lose both power supplies. I'm glad you got it fixed. Was it between the door and the door jamb?

The solenoid is grounded through the door. That is why it kept working. Regardless, I'm glad it's fixed. Take care and let us know if you have questions in the future.

Joe
Oct 26, 2010 at 8:39 PM
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Hey Guys,

I found this wiring diagram that shows two window fuses and the wiring for the window switches so you can do some testing if needed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse


Please let me know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.

Best, Ken
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:39 PM
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ALGRUVER
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passenger window rolls down but not up. switch is getting power.

Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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The switch is designed to reverse the polarity of power to the window motor. Check the other wire to see if gets power when you try to put it up. If it does, replace the motor. If it doesn't, the switch is bad.
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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ALGRUVER
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replaced the master switch. didn't help.
we switched the 2 wires running to the motor and can get the window up, which makes me think the motor is fine.
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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I agree. The motor sounds fine. The polarity is switched (by the switch) when you need it to go down. When you press down on the switch, do you get any power to the motor?
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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ALGRUVER
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from the master switch (driver side), we get nothing (neither up or down).
from the switch on passenger side, it only goes down, so yes, we have power to the motor when pressing down on the switch. This is mind boggling and very frustrating. thanks for the help!
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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If I recall, the master switch provides power to the others. Is there power to the master switch?
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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BENT
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Electrical problem
2003 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Automatic 86000 miles
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My power windows quit working about a week ago (after shutting off and restarting they worked again). The next day they were out again and have been since. All fuses and relays are good. I dont believe it is a switch problem because all 4 switches are not working. Could it be a switch????
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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MUSTANG87
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remove the main switch drivers ,clean it with wd40 if dont work possibly its bad.when the main switches drivers go bad sometimes the rest of switches will not work.the rest of ur switches r good just try the the drivers main .good luck
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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TTRAN
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You definitely have bad window regulator. Is it stop working on the rear windows?
Check on the top bar of the window regulator to see if you have a wheel on it. There are two wheels, one on the top and one on the bottom of the regulator frame. If you have only one on the bottom, replace the window regulator.
Tony
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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RDKROLL
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Electrical problem
2003 Ford Explorer 6 cyl All Wheel Drive Automatic 144000 miles

My electric windows do not work. I checked the fuses and they seem to work. I tried to replace the switches in the drivers door and this did not work. Since none of the windows work from the drivers door switches, I believe that it might be a problem between the fuses and the main switches. Any ideas
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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BLUELIGHTNIN6
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do the other 3 door windows operate with their separate switch? if so then check wiring to the master (driver door) switch.
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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RDKROLL
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the new switch fixed it cost me $78.00
Feb 28, 2017 at 3:41 PM (Merged)
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RON MARCELLUS
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Electrical problem
2003 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic

My son has my old explorer the pass.side power window stop working. Only would go down. I replced the window motor along with the cables. Still does not work. In trying to move the window brackets up to attach bolts. We powered up, and the problem is still the original issue, the window only goes down. What to do next? Thanks Ron
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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MERLIN2021
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Ron I will send testing info via email, also in addition to the tests, look in the rubber conduit for a broken wire, this is pretty common.


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Pinpoint Test J: Single Power Window Is Inoperative - Passenger Front Window Normal Operation Under normal operation the passenger front window control switch receives power from the driver window control switch through circuit 170 (RD/LB). The passenger front window control switch provides power to the power window motor through circuit 334 (RD/YE) and ground through 333 (YE/RD) to operate the passenger front window down, and power through circuit 333 (YE/RD) and ground through 334 (RD/YE) to operate the passenger front window up. When operating the passenger front window using the driver window control switch, power is sent to the passenger front window control switch through circuit 314 (TN/LB) and ground through 313 (WH/YE) to operate the passenger front window down, and power through circuit 313 (WH/YE) and ground through 314 (TN/LB) to operate the passenger front window up. Possible Causes  Open in circuits 170 (RD/LB), 313 (WH/YE), 314 (TN/LB), 333 (YE/RD) or 334 (RD/YE).  Inoperative driver window control switch.  Inoperative passenger front window control switch.  Inoperative passenger front window motor.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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RON MARCELLUS
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if I can not check voltages because no equipment. If the passenger swith is bad, would it allow the window to go down only? And not to go up? If this is the problem, would the driver side switch still perform as normal and allow operation of the passenger side window to go up and down? The price of the new passenger switch is cheap, and I would replace it this could be problem. Thanks Ron
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MERLIN2021
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A tester can be had for 10-15 dollars at radio shack, I don't recommend just throwing parts at the problem, My experience has been either broken wires, especially true if it will not go up from either switch, or a bad switch if it wont go up from just the passenger switch.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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RON MARCELLUS
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I tried each switch to see if that was problem. I have a small tester and tested the master switch at drivers side. Only one wire was hot out of the 6 is that correct? I tried to look at the wiring in boots but could not tell. Any other ideas? Thanks Ron
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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MERLIN2021
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Driver's side wiring in the boot is usually where the wires break, it's the most used door and the wires bend each time it's opened and closed, I pull the boot out of the body, then push it into the door to check these wires, Door trim panel MUST be removed to allow you to put the boot back in place.
I sent a wiring test proceedure, so check the UP wires for power at the Passenger door while operating the driver's door master switch. These switches are now made in mexico and have a high failure rate. Ford dealers keep plenty of them in stock. However, I test the wires BEFORE switch replacement.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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JEFFELECTRIC
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Passenger side window goes down but won't go up. I do have power at the connector that goes to the motor in the up and down position. Any ideas.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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How about ground. It requires both to complete the circuit and the swap to change direction.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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JEFFELECTRIC
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I will check that. Thank you so much.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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Check both door and master switches, you may be able to swap a door switch to check that side of the circuit.
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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my ford explorers passenger window stopped working from door and from master control on drivers door.then a month later all windows stopped working checked breaker and fuses tested ok.looking for tips on what problem could be or where to check for power.please advise asap
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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check for up and down commands from the door switch. if you have them, then the motor/regulator assembly is bad. if not, then you have a wiring issue

Roy
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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my power windows not working
buttons do not light up and do not open windows.
my sunroof power is still working.

are there any other fuses that i could check
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Check the fuses under the dash. IF they are good, remove the driver's door panel and check to see if there is power to the main switch.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
Jun 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM (Merged)