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2001 FORD ESCAPE
79,000 MILES • 6 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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STUGOLD
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Check Engine Light just came on. Have since noticed that when at a stop (with vehicle in gear) the engine sounds like it's "missing" and the engine also makes light rattling sound at the same time. 2 months ago I had a tune up, fuel injection cleaning and all intake valves replaces as was having an idling issue. Any ideas?
Jun 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM
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DOCFIXIT
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This guide will help you get the codes

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Come back with codes and will see what we can do.
Jun 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM
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STUGOLD
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had it scanned and was told that it came up #6 Ignition Coil. What is a reason retail cost I should expect to pay to have it replaced? What causes this to go bad? Should I expect that coils #1-5 are soon to follow?
Jun 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM
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Not sure what the cost would be I can estimate about 1 hr labor @$90 plus $75 coil.
You have three coils each coil fires two plugs.Why they go down ?? there electronic they do what they do. Heat from engine, vibration, firing thousands a minute, 79K miles and @8yrs. service would be a few reasons. So can't speculate on the other two.
Good luck
Jun 25, 2008 at 6:41 AM
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QX4
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Vehicle had misfire and illuminated check engine light
Vehicle not misfiring now. Light still on.
Had vehicle scanned showed misfire cylinder #3. No repair, but also no misfire--engine runs smooth and has full power. Will Engine light shut off itself after a number of cycles? If so, how many start/stop cycles?

Thanks
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BMRFIXIT
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Most likely it will
if PCM see all OK and no more misfire 50 or so drive cycle and not key cycle
my suggestion is that it may need a tune up and or weak coil
you can reset the codes and PCM by disconnecting the battery if no OBD2 scanner available
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:50 PM (Merged)
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QX4
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Thanks very much for information and super fast response
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:50 PM (Merged)
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MOCONNELL
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Computer problem
2001 Ford Escape 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic

As I mentioned above, my check engine light came on, so I scanned it, finding the code to be P1507- idle air control under speed error. What do you think could be the problem?
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:50 PM (Merged)
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Hi there,

You may have a vacuum leak around the IAC or the IAC motor is faulty.

mark (mhpautos)
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MADMIKE1735
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is it idling roughly??? if so, i suggest either cleaning the IAC, or replacing it entirely....
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:50 PM (Merged)
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KWEBB089
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Check engine light is on.

I have a variety of different symptoms:

1. Rough Idle - extremely loud "clunking" noise.
2. Stalling - at first only when the car was cold, now even when it's warmed up.
3. Little to no power when I accelerate - especially after reverse.
4. Little to no brakes when I first start to drive - amount of force required to brake is extremely high.
5. Upon starting, RPM jumps to 3000, then drops and bounces between 500 and 1500.
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:50 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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Lets start with what is the exact code numbers you have not code descriptions?
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KWEBB089
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I believe it was P0350. I already had the ignition coil replaced, because that's what the mechanic said was wrong. Check engine light went off, but it came back on the next day. I took it back into the mechanic and they replaced it again, telling me either the coil they replaced it with may have been defective; however, they also said if it happened again it is probably the computer and that is a $700 repair. Well, it happened again. When I first took it to them only symptoms 1 and 3 were happening. Since then it's gotten progressively worse. I guess I just wanted a second opinion before I spent $700. A friend of mine is a mechanic and I asked him what he thinks, he said it sounds like the MAF sensor and to have it cleaned and/or replaced.
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KWEBB089
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It was actually P0352, not P0350.
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Sounds like the guy replacing the coil is guessing the computer is a expensive guess.is he willing to pay for the computer if it doesnt fix it?Without testing some Thing's cant tell you whats going on does the coil spark when it runs poorly?
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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My 2001 Ford Escape XLT idles rough and sputters when started in the morning in the cold (30deg). I can quickly warm up the engine in about 5 minutes and it then runs fine. Check engine light only tripped once with a cycinder 2 misfire code but symptoms are constant when engine is cold. Is it possible ignition coil is faulty only when engine is cold? What else could check.
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RASMATAZ
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Have the computer scanned for code/s-you have a problem within the engine management system that caused the CEL to turn on-This is your starting point of diagnosis,finding out what's going on.

Go to Autozone or Advance Auto and get scanned free-
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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SATURNTECH9
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Or how about paying for the coil thats not the issue?
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RAVENS4LIFE
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The only code that showed was cycl 2 misfire. That code has been erased and all is clear now. I bought an OBDII scanner. Check engine light is not on right now. I replace the IAC valve already and the engine temp sending unit to no avail. Only chokes when engine is cold.
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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CJ MEDEVAC
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i've been thru the bad ignition coil thing with my wife's '03 escape.....wanna read more of that, here's that story......i had absolutely no codes show up after scanning it on several different occasions with different scanners

........or you can skip down below this and read about the "stalling issue" i had before the skipping issue

this was an issue with her's that i worked on hither and yon, for months

i promised myself, i would figure out the cyber controlled critter without the help of a "pay mechanic".......technology has went overboard...i'll keep my 2 jeeps that are 36 and 67 years young

reckon my symptoms are sorta the same as yours?

i had input from here also....ended differently

disregard all of this, if we're not on the same country road

thought i'd sling it out there, for observation anyway....open for any questions with mine....hope it's simpler than mine!

i went thru same deal w/ '03 ford escape 3.0 v-6

repetitive, fast hesitations (stumbles), lasting 1-2 seconds, varied in how far the "sets" were apart, it was more evident climbing a incline, while slowly administering gas....random or none on level ground......every now and again at idle, but very seldom.

---no codes/ no cel --- (cleaned 1st, and/ or replaced the following

new plugs............then "genuine plugs".....bah-hum-bug!!!, nothing wrong with the other new ones, i just installed!

boots and springs

air filter

maf

egr

a new iac for sheets & giggles! ....prevent-maint...if for nothing else!

performed mega vacuum leak searches several times.

fought with wife many times over situation, 2+ months!

i really hated taking off the "plenum" so many times to access the other 3 cylinders.......my old jeeps are so much ezer to tinker with

each part seem to fix it for a day or two....i did not mind replacing the suggested parts, as i am all for "pm" and she's got 100,000 miles on her rig.

the final cure was #3 misfiring (lucked into the correct cylinder) my mission was gonna be to swap a new coil pack down the line, till it stopped

#3 was the ticket!

i had tried to get the technical school to ride me with their portable machine---things did not work out, with their schedule.

i went to a salvage yard to get a used pack ($10) to swap around to figure out which was bad, then buy a new one, if the "donor pack" solved the problem.

so happened, the salvage yard guy had a machine, he found a stored code, it said #3 had misfired.....my little code scanner could not tell me that, or the others i tried!.....i think his was a "snap on"

runs perfect now, with the new $79 coil pack!

if it had not been for the stored code, i was gonna "one at a time" swap the coil w/ the 1st ez 3 to find the misfiring one......if it happened to be one under the "plastic plenum"

the tentative overall plan was to take off and replace the plenum one time only!!!---but swap the "3 good" front coil packs to the rear.....then "test" the 3 ez front ones (relocated from rear) one at a time with the "donor coil pack"

the stored code made it ez on me, locating the bad pack
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.the "stalling thing" is in this link below

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2005-ford-escape-every-day-crank-suv-high-idle-usually-after-30-minutes

.......and yes, "a124" still works, i just checked

keep us posted on progress

the medic
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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Check and test the TPS and MAF sensor
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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KWEBB089
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UPDATE:

I took my car into a different garage recommended to me by a coworker. I didn't give them any diagnostic codes, I let them do that all on their own. I just told them all the issues I described above. I did not mention anything about the computer.

His diagnostic: I had a vacuum leak in the head gasket. Before doing any repairs, he called me and asked me to come in so he can show me the problem. The idle was running rough until he sprayed the carb cleaner where the leak was, and then it began to run smoothly. He fixed the leak, and the car was running smoothly.

HOWEVER, he also told me that the leak is not the only problem. According to his diagnostic, my second coil was also misfiring (the one I just had replaced, twice), but he did not want to fix it yet. He said that he wanted to take it step by step. In other words, if fixing the leak solved all the problems, he didn't want me to pay for unnecessary repairs, because the leak could be causing the coil to misfire. So he gave me my car back and told me that if the check engine light comes back on to bring it back in. My car was fine all day until I got home and the check engine light came back on. The idle is still smooth, and the RPM is no longer bouncing, so I'm going to assume it is back on due to the misfiring coil. I am taking it back in tomorrow morning.

Will post another update.
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Glad to hear you got part of the problem fixed hard to belive you went thru so many coils.i would have them check the injectors.
Jul 6, 2020 at 5:51 PM (Merged)
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DXROTH
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I'm going to change my upper and lower manifold gaskets ( possible air leak)anything else I should change while I'm down there? I have done plugs and coils. I think i recall someone mentioning o rings on the injectors but im not sure. Just trying to correct some check engine lights and the rough idle when cold. Seems to be common with these escapes any other places in particular i should be checking for vacuum leaks? It threw some codes but i lost the paper after i reset them 3 of them were p0300 p0171 and p0174. Witch is random misfire and banks 1&2 lean
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Okay, the PO171 and 174 deal with a lean condition and the fuel trims are at max. It does sound like a vacuum leak (air getting past the MAF). The PO300 is a random misfire which could be caused by the condition. Before you go to the trouble of replacing the intake gasket, have you checked all vacuum lines for leaks? My first guess is a deteriorated hose, connection... How have you checked for leaks?
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DXROTH
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I have replaced quite a few lines the erratic idle is so bad when its cold the car will not idle at all if you take your foot off the gas. I got the gaskets alrdy but i will check the lines again
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Does the problem go away when it warms up?
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it does not always go away . But it definitely gets better
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Well, it could be the intake gasket. Before I would do the work, I would check vacuum pressure or use carb cleaner to see if there is actually a leak.
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Engine was preasure washed now its misfiring an check engine light is flashing an occasional shaking
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you need to dry out the wires/coils from all the water.

Roy
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DFORDMAN
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Drying out coils won't always work. It will short them out so they don't work. I work on these frequently. Power washing coil on plug vehicles is a definate no no.
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