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Tiny
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  • 1998 FORD FIESTA
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My car failed its MOT on emissions (see attached photo) is this the end of my engine and I need a new one? Is there any quick wins I could do to improve the emissions to get it through the MOT? Advise from the garage was a new engine pointless repairing it.
Someone else told me an oil filter and oil change, but do not want to waste money on this if it wont help.
Please help
Friday, October 28th, 2016 AT 12:34 PM

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Tiny
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Your vehicle is running pretty rich. Scan the computer for misfire codes or 02 sensor faults. Remove the spark plugs and check to see if any are wet with fuel. If they are then do a compression test. If compression is low then a cylinder leakage test should be done to see if you have a bad valve or piston rings.
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Friday, October 28th, 2016 AT 1:14 PM
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Just curious, how is the vehicle running over all? It may be running rich, but replacing the engine seems a bit drastic without diagnosing anything. You only have 106,000 miles.
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Friday, October 28th, 2016 AT 4:04 PM
Tiny
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The car drives fine the engine management light is not on either.
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Friday, October 28th, 2016 AT 11:46 PM
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With those numbers I am surprised the light has not come on. You should still have it scanned for codes.
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Saturday, October 29th, 2016 AT 9:27 AM
Tiny
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Yes for sure, that HC (hydro carbon) number is very high. That is raw unburnt fuel. Your Oxygen sensors should be pegged out right now trying to get that engine to go lean. They are probably coated in black carbon right now. I would like to see the live data stream from the ECM, very curious to see whats going on. That first fast idle test is off the charts 7.66% CO. (Carbon monoxide)
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Saturday, October 29th, 2016 AT 12:27 PM
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Something is going on and yes want to see those fuel trims and see if system is not stuck on open loop?
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Saturday, October 29th, 2016 AT 3:18 PM
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Yeah that's a good thought, it wouldn't even be reading O2's in open loop, I wonder how good the coolant sensor is reading, although all this should still have set some sort of code. Unless the ECM is shot, or the check engine light bulb is burned out, seen that before.
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Saturday, October 29th, 2016 AT 3:42 PM
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Your right, maybe that is why the check engine light is not on? Bulb could also be burnt but scanning the system should put out a code.
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Saturday, October 29th, 2016 AT 7:45 PM
Tiny
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I am going to get it linked up to see if there are any fault codes. I will up date thread once I have some answers from that. Thanks for the advice so far.
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Sunday, October 30th, 2016 AT 2:07 PM
Tiny
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Right I borrowed my friends meter fault reader this is what it showed and some of the live data. I cleared the fault and it hasn't reappeared but I also found so air hoses on the side of the engine that looked like they had sacked in on them selves a bit so I have now replaced them.
I have other screen shorts after I replaced the air hoses.
But not attached them to this message
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Tuesday, November 1st, 2016 AT 10:02 AM
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Hey SIMON

I am thinking it could be a leaking fuel pressure regulator or a coolant temperature sensor that has gone bad, please remove the spark plugs to see if and are black. Also with the scanner hooked up snap he throttle to see if the TPS sensor is working.

Best, Ken
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Tuesday, November 1st, 2016 AT 11:02 AM
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Yes remove the sparkplugs and see what they look like, also you might try putting a fuel pressure tester on there and see if it holds the pressure or if it leaks down, You may have a bad O2. There sensor readings for the O2 live data should be fluctuating between 0.1 volts and 0.9 volts. If it is just staying right around 0.5 like that reading is saying, the O2 is not reading any oxygen and may be no good. The fuel trim is reading alittle negative but not a whole lot. It should be reading a lot more with HC reading like you have there. The ECM should be going super lean trying to compensate for a reading like that. I would expect HC that high, that the O2 would be trimming the fuel a huge amount. That's the point of the O2 sensors. To keep the air/fuel ratio correct 14.7 to 1.
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Tuesday, November 1st, 2016 AT 7:37 PM

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