Codes 7E8 and 7E9 A/T

Tiny
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What do these codes mean?
Thursday, January 9th, 2020 AT 3:02 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

In generic terms, 7E8 and the 7E9 are fuel/air intake codes. However, I'm not sure how you got those. Normal codes on an OBD2 system are usually P codes. Did you scan it using a scanner? Can you tell me what is happening with the vehicle?

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, January 9th, 2020 AT 7:36 PM
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ZANE BERGERON
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Hi Jacob, I'm having those same two codes come up 2008 Jeep Patriot. First one says lost communication with TCM second says my reader doesn't have the code stored.
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Thursday, July 1st, 2021 AT 3:22 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

These two terms are really not codes, at least not diagnostic trouble codes. The 7E8 is an engine data menu. The 7E9 is the same for the transmission.

Is the check engine light staying on when the engine is running? Are you experiencing any engine or transmission issues? How were these identified?

If you are experiencing issues without a check engine light, what I suggest is this. The CAN system needs to be scanned. CAN stands for controller area network. The vehicle has several modules/computers. The CAN connects these components together via a few wires. If you are using a basic scan tool, it likely can not read the codes from modules other than the powertrain.

Here is a quick video showing how it's done:

https://youtu.be/InIlnsjOVFA

Let me know what exactly is happening. Also, I need to know if this is a 4wd, if it has a 2.0L or 2.4L engine, and if it has an automatic or manual transmission.

Take care,

Joe

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Thursday, July 1st, 2021 AT 8:58 PM
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Hi, i'm having these same codes going on. Before any codes came up, I was having the car act like it's going stall going 50/60 MPH. I have been hearing a metal rattle under my seat that is exhaust related.
It stalled out while driving through town, and the engine light lit up. I put dry gas in it, and got gas, and then it wouldnt start at all. Finally got it started, but it still has two dash lights on, and it's still going to happen.
My vehicle is a Jeep compass, 2015, 2.4, 137,000 miles, 4x4 with an automatic transmission.
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Tuesday, November 30th, 2021 AT 9:59 PM
Tiny
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My scanner is a Walmart scanner.
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Tuesday, November 30th, 2021 AT 10:00 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Yep, those are menu indicators. Is there anything on the scanner that indicates diagnostic trouble codes?

Also, the idea that you hear rattling in the exhaust, if it is actually internal and not a heat shield, the internal components in the converter likely have come apart and are causing a restriction in the exhaust. That will cause power loss and poor drivability.

Take a rubber mallet and tap on the exhaust to see if you can determine where the noise is coming from.

Also, take a look through the following link and let me know if the symptoms seem to mirror what you experience.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/bad-catalytic-converter-symptoms

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, December 1st, 2021 AT 5:27 PM
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So, I bought a 2008 Jeep Patriot Sport 2.4L CVT Transmission about a little over a month ago from a used dealer. So far, we've had to unclog the sunroof drains, replace thermostats, replace radiator, change spark plugs, do a transmission fluid exchange and filter change, oil change, change all the other filters, and about to replace the front and rear struts. Well, a few days after enjoying the smooth ride from changing out the transmission fluid, the car did what I call a hiccup. While I was trying to accelerate to a faster speed or continuously going the same speed (highway drive for both incidents), it would temporarily lose power and then come right back. A hiccup. So that is what led to the spark plug change and finding out the radiator had this gnarly crack in it and it was like some Slimer stuff was spraying at me. Had no issues the next morning driving the vehicle to go pick up my husband from work. I took the highway there and then drove through town and the last bit was a highway (like three or four exits worth of drive). That night however, yeah no. She hiccupped twice going towards my husband's work on the highway. I told him I would drive through town just to be safe. I am so thankful I did. Anyway, this vehicle quit running three times on me trying to get home. She started right back up after each one but if I did not hold the brake pedal and rev the car while stopped, she would shut off. Mind you she has power, just no gas. I thought, bummer fuel pump went out. No, that was not the messages I got after using my OBDII reader. It came up with 7E8 and 7E9. So, I clicked on the first one. That came up as Crankshaft Position Control Sensor. Okay. It's a plug piece and not too bad. The second one came up as a pressure solenoid stuck on. That one I saw on my 2002 Saturn LW200 when I was needing to replace the filters on the transmission and something else. Once I replaced those that solenoid message didn't come up again. When I went back out to the vehicle to pull up the messages to take a picture of them for my husband and brother, the 7E9 said there was no fault code to show. So that solenoid thing disappeared. The only one that remained was the crankshaft position control sensor. So, would it be safe to say that once I replaced that the 7E9 message would stay gone? Sorry for the ramble. I pushed that 3-ton vehicle by myself. If you want to know what that looks like, think of a midget pushing an elephant. Thanks for the help. Oh, I forgot to take a pic of the "no fault codes" for the 7E9. I was having some breathing issues from pushing the beast.
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Friday, April 22nd, 2022 AT 11:14 PM
Tiny
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Let's get a new post started for the crankshaft position sensor because that is not going to be related to these codes.

These two codes do not have any diagnostic information with them. Basically, the scan tool asks the module to send all the codes and data and these codes tell the scan tool that it sent them.

Most scan tools will not show them as the scan tool contains logic that tells it to not display them to the operator of the tool.

So, they are called informational codes that basically say, the ECM and TCM sent all data and codes so if they are the only codes you have, then there are no codes in the system.

So, if you have a crankshaft sensor code then we need to get a new post started for that if you need assistance as we need to keep each post to one topic so that others can find the answers.

Let me know if you have questions on these two codes.

Thanks
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Saturday, April 23rd, 2022 AT 6:25 AM

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