Clutch replacement instructions please?

Tiny
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Recently I noticed that my clutch will slip but then will grab and work fine. It is happening more frequently. I gave it full power in 2 gear after it grabbed and it didn't slip so I don't think the clutch is worn out. I got over 250,000 with my clutch. Not sure if it is an adjustment or hydraulic issue. No oil leaks.
Thursday, January 28th, 2021 AT 3:18 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

A failing clutch is more likely to slip in higher gears. In first or second gear, there is less of a load on it because of the gear ratio. If you were to place it in 4th or 5th and accelerate hard, does it slip? If it does, the clutch needs replaced. this video will walk you throught he job on a similar car the process is this same.

https://youtu.be/6N6b5F2ChyE

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Let me know if that is what happens. Also, if you want to replace the clutch, here are the directions. Note the pics correlate with the directions.

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2010 Acura TL AWD V6-3.7L
Removal and Replacement
Vehicle Transmission and Drivetrain Clutch Pressure Plate Service and Repair Removal and Replacement
REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT
Clutch Replacement

Special Tools Required

- Clutch Alignment Disc 07JAF-PM7011A
- Ring Gear Holder 07LAB-PV00100
- Clutch Alignment Tool Set 07PAF-0020000
- Clutch Alignment Pilot, 20 mm 07PAF-0020360
- Clutch Alignment Shaft 07ZAF-PR8A100
- Attachment, 22 x 24 mm 07746-0010800
- Driver Handle, 15 x 135L 07749-0010000
- Remover Handle 07936-3710100
- Bearing Remover Shaft Set, 20 mm 07936-3710600
- Slide Hammer 07936-371020A

Engine Side

Pressure Plate Inspection and Removal

1. Remove the transmission See: Manual Transmission/Transaxle > Removal and Replacement > Manual Transmission Removal.

2. Check the evenness of the height of the diaphragm spring fingers using the clutch alignment disc (A), the clutch alignment shaft (B), the remover handle (C), and a feeler gauge (D). If the height difference is more than the service limit, replace the pressure plate.

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3. Install the ring gear holder (A), the clutch alignment tool set (B), and the 20 mm clutch alignment pilot (C).

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4. To prevent warping, loosen the pressure plate mounting bolts (D) in a crisscross pattern in several steps, then remove the pressure plate (E).

5. Inspect the fingers of the diaphragm spring (A) for wear at the release bearing contact area.

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6. Inspect the pressure plate surface (A) for wear, cracks, and burning.

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7. Inspect for warpage using a straight edge (A) and a feeler gauge (B). Measure across the pressure plate (C). If the most measurement difference is more than the service limit, replace the pressure plate.

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Clutch Disc Inspection and Removal

8. Remove the clutch disc (A), the clutch alignment tool set (B), and the 20 mm clutch alignment pilot (C).

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9. Inspect the lining of the clutch disc for signs of slippage or oil. If the clutch disc looks burnt or is oil soaked, replace the clutch disc. If the clutch disc is oil soaked, find and repair the source of the oil leak.

10. Measure the clutch disc thickness. If the measurement is less than the service limit, replace the clutch disc.

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11. Measure the depths of the rivets from the clutch disc lining surface (A) to the rivets (B) on both sides. If the measurement is less than the service limit, replace the clutch disc.

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Flywheel Inspection

12. Remove the ring gear holder.

13. Inspect the ring gear teeth for wear and damage.

14. Inspect the clutch disc mating surface on the flywheel for wear, cracks, and burning.

15. Measure the flywheel (A) runout using a dial indicator (B). Through at least two full turns with pushing against the flywheel each time you turn it to take up the crankshaft thrust washer clearance. If the measurement is not within the standard, replace the flywheel, and recheck the runout; go to step 16.

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Flywheel Replacement

16. Install the ring gear holder (A).

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17. Loosen the flywheel mounting bolts in a crisscross pattern in several steps. Remove the bolts, then remove the flywheel and the ring gear holder.

18. Install the flywheel on the crankshaft, and install the mounting bolts finger-tight.

19. Install the ring gear holder (A), then torque the flywheel mounting bolts (B) in a crisscross pattern in several steps.

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Pilot Bearing Inspection

20. Turn the inner race of the pilot bearing with your finger. The pilot bearing should turn smoothly and quietly. Check that the pilot bearing outer race fits tightly in the flywheel. If the race does not turn smoothly, quietly, or fit tight in the flywheel, replace the pilot bearing; go to step 21.

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Pilot Bearing Replacement

21. Remove the pilot bearing (A) using the slide hammer (B), the remover handle (C), and the 20 mm bearing remover shaft set (D).

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22. Install a new pilot bearing (A) into the crankshaft using the 15 x 135L driver handle (B) and the 22 x 24 mm attachment (C).

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Clutch Disc and Pressure Plate Installation

23. Temporarily install the clutch disc onto the splines of the transmission mainshaft. Make sure the clutch disc slides freely on the mainshaft.

24. Apply super high temp urea grease (P/N 08798- 9002) to the splines (A) of the clutch disc (B), then install the clutch disc using the clutch alignment tool set (C) and the 20 mm clutch alignment pilot (D).

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25. Align (±60 degrees) the point marks (A) across the pressure plate (B) and the flywheel (C).

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26. Install the pressure plate and the mounting bolts (D), finger-tight.

27. Torque the mounting bolts (A) in a crisscross pattern. Tighten the bolts in several steps to prevent warping the diaphragm spring. Make sure that there is not clearance between the pressure plate and the flywheel.

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28. Remove the ring gear holder (B), the clutch alignment tool set (C), and the 20 mm clutch alignment pilot.

29. Make sure the diaphragm spring fingers are all the same height.

30. Do the release bearing inspection, and replace it if necessary.

31. Install the transmission See: Manual Transmission/Transaxle > Removal and Replacement > Manual Transmission Installation.

Transmission Side

Release Bearing Removal

1. Remove the transmission See: Manual Transmission/Transaxle > Removal and Replacement > Manual Transmission Removal.

2. Remove the release fork boot (A) from the clutch housing (B).

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3. Remove the release fork (C) from the clutch housing by squeezing the release fork set spring (D). Remove the release bearing (E).

Release Bearing Inspection

4. Check the play of the release bearing by spinning it by hand. If there is excessive play or noise, replace the release bearing.

NOTE: The release bearing is packed with grease. Do not wash it in solvent.

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Release Bearing Installation

5. Apply super high temp urea grease (P/N 08798-9002) to the release fork (A), the release fork bolt (B), the release bearing (C), and the release bearing guide (D) in the shaded areas, then set the release fork set spring (E).

NOTE: Replace the release fork bolt if necessary.

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6. With the release fork (A) slide between the release bearing pawls (B), install the release bearing on the mainshaft while inserting the release fork through the hole (C) in the clutch housing.

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7. Align the detent (D) of the release fork with the release fork bolt (E), then press the detent of the release fork over the release fork bolt squarely.

8. Install the release fork boot (F). Make sure the boot seals around the release fork and the clutch housing.

9. Move the release fork (A) right and left to make sure that it fits properly against the release bearing (B) and that the release bearing slides smoothly. Wipe off any excess grease.

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10. Install the transmission See: Manual Transmission/Transaxle > Removal and Replacement > Manual Transmission Installation.

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I hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions or need help.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, January 28th, 2021 AT 4:45 PM
Tiny
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I have yet to find the second clutch pressure switch. Been looking for two weeks and still have not found any picture or diagram. Please show me a picture or diagram. Thank you
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

Thanks for stopping in. I have looked at several places and this is all that I found so far.
Please see the following diagrams.

Notice in the electrical wiring, there does not seem to be a mention of any sensor for second gear clutch pressure.

I have also included some pictures showing locations of the transmission sensor locations.
I hope that helps.

Jon
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thanks for responding so quick. I have read in other forums there is one but I have not found it. Seen diagrams that have multiple pressure switches but are not labeled. I have already purchased a second and third switch so there has to be one somewhere. Lol
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I will do some more digging. Are you having a specific issue that leads to you to be looking for it?
Jon
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, very rough shift from second to third. And I have read changing the pressure switches out will help if not fix it. Many threads on forum worked for third and fourth Gen tls.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Cleaned shift solenoid filters.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Okay, I have looked at all resources available to me. There is no mention of a second gear clutch pressure sensor anywhere.

I did however find many mentions of what you say you are experiencing and most solutions pointed to the transmission fluid. Can you verify the color of the fluid and the level? In most cases those who replaced the transmission filter and fluid it solved their shifting issues.

Jon
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, I just did full flush last week and changed filter. Shifts a little smoother. What do you know about the shift solenoid adjustment?
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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As far as I know, they are not adjustable. It is not like the old transmissions that had band adjustments. The TCU controls all of the servos activities.

Here is something I found on the repair manual for your condition. (See picture attached)
Jon
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Thank you. Where do you get your diagrams from? I have a repair manual but does not list part numbers.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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We have them internally here so we can lookup all different kinds of cars. Helps us answer faster and more accurately.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:51 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Oh okay. And it is a dual linear shift or clutch solenoid that is adjustable. Mine has a screw on end of it.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:52 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I see, the service manual shows no procedures for that so I am assuming that is set by the manufacturer. I will keep looking around to see if I can find anything.
Jon
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:52 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have another question, in my repair manual I have all the obd2 codes. And some of those codes are specifically for the second clutch pressure switch. So I have to have one, ugh, this is driving me crazy.
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Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 AT 1:52 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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That is strange, The DTC codes I see in the manual have nothing on second.
See picture attached:
Jon
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