1997 Chrysler Sebring DTC code P0112 &P1496

Tiny
MDPORTER
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  • 1997 CHRYSLER SEBRING
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 11,000 MILES
Have codes p0112 &p1496 When hooked up to scan tool air intake temp. Is always reading 260' F even when sensor is unplugged. Cold or hot engine.
checked voltage to sensor and is 5V across terminals and to ground. Also have intermittent tach and odometer not working. Any help would be appriecated.
Wednesday, May 26th, 2010 AT 8:57 PM

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Tiny
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Hi mdporter. Welcome to the forum. Which Sebring do you have, the hardtop or the convertible? Is it possible your troubleshooting introduced one of the codes? The 1496 is for the 5.0 volt sensor supply voltage too low, but you said you found 5.0 volts at the sensor. With the sensor unplugged, it should be reading very cold. As the sensor's temperature goes down, its resistance goes up correlating with higher voltage.

Recheck the voltages on the two wires while the sensor is plugged in. The signal wire should have between 0.5 and 4.5 volts, and the ground return will typically have about 0.2 volts. Also measure the resistance between the two terminals of the sensor, then holler back.

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Wednesday, May 26th, 2010 AT 9:46 PM
Tiny
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I have a converible, don't have the car here now to check the volts. As I had said the scanner reading was 260'F when the sensor was plugged in, unhooked, or plug wires jumped between terminals. I did check resistance of sensor at approx. 70'F ambeant temp and ohms was approx. 8500. Also I checked ohms on the signal return wire and when key is ON it was 25 ohms when key was OFF it was less than 0.5 ohms. Hope this might help. When car returns I'll check volts at sensor while hooked up
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Friday, May 28th, 2010 AT 3:17 PM
Tiny
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The 25 ohms with the ignition switch turned on is not accurate because other sensors share that signal return line, and there will be about 0.2 volts on it. That's how the computer knows current is flowing in the circuit and it helps it determine which fault code to set. Otherwise the sensors could be grounded right where they're mounted.

It sounds like you've covered all the bases and logic has gone out the window. The ground wire appears to be ok. You found 5.0 volts supply, and the sensor measures a typical value. This is where the confusion sets in. Until I hear back from you, I'm going to guess you have a problem with the Engine Computer. Here's my logic. The only thing left is stretched pins in the sensor's electrical connector. That would cause an open circuit, you'd still have 5.0 volts on the signal wire, and the proper 0.2 volts on the ground wire. However, the sensor's resistance goes up as its temperature goes down. Normally an open circuit defaults to minus 40 degrees. A reading of 260 degrees suggests the signal voltage is dropping way too far. (Acceptable signal voltage range is 0.5 to 4.5 volts). You should see very low voltage on the signal wire if the sensor was shorted or the two pins in the connector were touching each other. Since you have 5.0 volts, the signal wire is not shorted to ground.

Ok, I'm having a brain burp. Something must be taking place in the computer I'm not aware of. What I mean is it is indicating 260 degrees as a default in recognition of a problem, not as an actual temperature. Back-probe the electrical connector to remeasure the sensor resistance through the pins. I think you're going to find an open circuit due to a stretched pin. There is another resistor in series with the sensor's signal wire. It lives in the computer and is what causes the voltage drop to occur on that line. The fact that 5.0 volts is found at the sensor when it is unplugged proves the entire circuit from the computer to the sensor is ok. The fact that no voltage drop occurs when the sensor is plugged in proves no current is flowing in the circuit due to a break. You proved the ground wire is ok and the sensor is ok. The pins have to be open or the sensor is opening up under load. That was real common in my years of fixing tvs, but it's highly unlikely for a simple temperature sensor.

I guess I'm getting tired. I'm starting to over-think this. If the circuit is not broken anywhere, current must flow through the sensor and voltage must be dropped across the resistor in the computer leaving you with less than 5.0 volts on the signal wire. If you still have 5.0 volts, unplug the connector and poke about a 4.7k resistor in that terminal and ground the other end. If the voltage still doesn't drop to a normal, ... Oh, ... Say 2 to 4 volts, there has to be a problem inside the computer. If the voltage does drop, there has to be something wrong with the sensor or the connector pins.

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Saturday, May 29th, 2010 AT 3:14 AM
Tiny
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What was the answer wondering if bad sodering in the gage cluster would creat these codes
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Monday, September 24th, 2012 AT 6:01 PM

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