Burp/bypass line on reservoir coolant bottle

Tiny
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  • 2008 LINCOLN MKX
  • 160,000 MILES
When should the burp/ bypass line on reservoir coolant bottle be flowing?
I can't remember when.
Mine is not flowing. It's not overheating but no heat out of the heater core.

Drained coolant from radiator for some work. Forgot to refill and ran engine while putting tools away. Heard fan kick on high and then remembered. Shut vehicle down and filled coolant. Drove it and still above symptoms.

Water pump plastic impellers gone?

I couldn't find anything in AllDatapro as to the operation of that line or even how to do a water pump flow test.
Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 5:06 PM

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Tiny
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Found a video @13:00 shows flow.
https://youtu.be/Oepj_zhPQBQ

Mine doesn't suck down either. Still curious what you got to sat about the vent/bypass tube.
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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 5:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I attached directions for bleeding this system. Is this what was done?

2008 Lincoln Truck MKX AWD V6-3.5L
Cooling System Draining, Filling and Bleeding
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Cooling System Service and Repair Procedures Cooling System Draining, Filling and Bleeding
COOLING SYSTEM DRAINING, FILLING AND BLEEDING
Cooling System Draining, Filling and Bleeding

Special Tool(s)
pic 1

Material
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Draining

WARNING: Always allow the engine to cool before opening the cooling system. Do not unscrew the coolant pressure relief cap when the engine is operating or the cooling system is hot. The cooling system is under pressure; steam and hot liquid can come out forcefully when the cap is loosened slightly. Failure to follow these instructions may result in serious personal injury.

CAUTION: The coolant must be recovered in a suitable, clean container for reuse. If the coolant is contaminated, it must be recycled or disposed of correctly. Using contaminated coolant may result in damage to the engine or cooling system components.

CAUTION: The engine cooling system is filled with Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant. Mixing coolant types degrades the corrosion protection of Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant.

NOTE: Stop-leak style pellets/products must not be used as an additive in this engine cooling system. The addition of stop-leak style pellets/products can clog or damage the cooling system resulting in degraded cooling system performance and/or failure.

NOTE: Less than 80% of coolant capacity can be recovered with the engine in the vehicle. Dirty, rusty or contaminated coolant requires replacement.

1. With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist.
2. Release the pressure in the cooling system by slowly turning the pressure relief cap 1/2 turn counterclockwise. When the pressure is released, remove the pressure relief cap.
3. Place a suitable container below the radiator draincock.
Open the draincock and allow to drain.
Close the draincock after draining.
4. When the coolant is drained, make sure drain plugs are installed and tight.

Filling and Bleeding with RADKITPLUS
1. Using the special tool, install the RADKITPLUS and follow the manufacturer's instructions to fill and bleed the cooling system.

Filling and Bleeding without RADKITPLUS

CAUTION: Engine coolant provides freeze protection, boil protection, cooling efficiency and corrosion protection to the engine and cooling components. In order to obtain these protections, the engine coolant must be maintained at the correct concentration and fluid level in the degas bottle.

When adding engine coolant, use a 50/50 mixture of engine coolant and distilled water.

To maintain the integrity of the coolant and the cooling system:
Vehicle cooling systems are filled with Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant. Always fill the cooling system with the same coolant that is present in the system. Do not mix coolant types.
Do not add/mix orange-colored Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant or equivalent, meeting Ford specification WSS-M97B44-D or green colored Premium Engine Coolant. Mixing coolants may degrade the coolant's corrosion protection.
Do not add alcohol, methanol or brine, or any engine coolants mixed with alcohol or methanol antifreeze. These can cause engine damage from overheating or freezing.
Ford Motor Company does not recommend the use of recycled engine coolant in vehicles originally equipped with Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant since a Ford approved recycling process is not yet available.
Used engine coolant should be disposed of in an appropriate manner. Follow your community's regulations and standards for recycling and disposing of automotive fluids.

NOTE: Stop-leak style pellets/products must not be used as an additive in this engine cooling system. The addition of stop-leak style pellets/products can clog or damage the cooling system resulting in degraded cooling system performance and/or failure.

1. Open the degas bottle cap and fill the degas bottle to the MAX fill line.
2. Close the degas bottle cap.

3. CAUTION: If the engine overheats or the fluid level drops below the minimum fill line, shut off the engine and add fluid to the degas bottle maximum fill line once the engine cools. Failure to follow these instructions may result in damage to the engine.

Start the engine and let idle for 10 minutes or until the engine reaches normal operating temperature.
4. Repeat Step 3 if necessary.
5. Start the engine and turn the heater to the MAX position.

6. CAUTION: If the engine overheats or the fluid level drops below the minimum fill line, shut off the engine and add fluid to the degas bottle maximum fill line once the engine cools. Failure to follow these instructions may result in damage to the engine.

Run the engine at 2,500 RPMs for 10 minutes.
7. Repeat Step 6 if necessary.

8. WARNING: Always allow the engine to cool before opening the cooling system. Do not unscrew the coolant pressure relief cap when the engine is operating or the cooling system is hot. The cooling system is under pressure; steam and hot liquid can come out forcefully when the cap is loosened slightly. Failure to follow these instructions may result in serious personal injury.

Check the engine coolant level in degas bottle and fill as necessary.

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions. Also, when the operating temp is reached, you should be able to see the coolant flowing. It could be related to the pump.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 6:45 PM
Tiny
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Yes. I tried the manual bleeding procedure. No motion in the reservoir.
Looks like I am doing a pump and chain (they apparently are stretched at around 200,000).
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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 8:10 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

If you followed those steps and have no flow, it does sound like the pump is the issue. I don't know if you need them, but I am adding the directions for chain/pump replacement. They are extensive. The attached pics correlate with the directions.

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2008 Lincoln Truck MKX V6-3.5L
Removal and Replacement
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Engine Water Pump Service and Repair Removal and Replacement
REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT
COOLANT PUMP

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Removal

NOTICE: During engine repair procedures, cleanliness is extremely important. Any foreign material, including any material created while cleaning gasket surfaces, that enters the oil passages, coolant passages or the oil pan can cause engine failure.

1. With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist.
2. Drain the cooling system.
3. Remove the engine front cover.
4. Remove and discard the engine oil filter.

Pic 3

5. Rotate the crankshaft clockwise and align the timing marks on the Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT) assemblies as shown.

Pic 4

6. NOTE: The Camshaft Holding Tool will hold the camshafts in the Top Dead Center (TDC) position.

Install the Camshaft Holding Tool onto the flats of the LH camshafts.

Pic 5

7. NOTE: The Camshaft Holding Tool will hold the camshafts in the TDC position.

Install the Camshaft Holding Tool onto the flats of the RH camshafts.

Pic 6

8. Remove the 3 bolts and the RH VCT housing.

Pic 7

9. Remove the 3 bolts and the LH VCT housing.

NOTE: The following 3 steps are for primary timing chains when the colored links are not visible.

Pic 8

10. Mark the timing chain link that aligns with the timing mark on the RH intake VCT assembly as shown.

Pic 9

11. Mark the timing chain link that aligns with the timing mark on the LH intake VCT assembly as shown.

Pic 10

12. Mark the timing chain link that aligns with the timing mark on the crankshaft sprocket as shown.

Pic 11

13. Remove the 2 bolts and the primary timing chain tensioner.

Pic 12

14. Remove the primary timing chain tensioner arm.

Pic 13

15. Remove the 2 bolts and the lower LH primary timing chain guide.

Pic 14

16. Remove the primary timing chain.

Pic 15

17. Remove the 2 bolts and the upper LH primary timing chain guide.

Pic 16

18. Remove the RH primary timing chain guide lower bolt.

Pic 17

19. NOTE: The RH primary timing chain guide must be repositioned to allow the coolant pump to be removed.

Loosen the RH primary timing chain guide upper bolt.
- Rotate the guide and tighten the bolt.
20. Place clean lint-free shop towels in the oil pan opening to prevent coolant from entering the oil pan during coolant pump removal.

Pic 18

21. Remove the 8 bolts and the coolant pump.

Installation

pic 19

1. NOTE: Clean and inspect all sealing surfaces.

Install the coolant pump and the 8 bolts.
- Tighten in the sequence shown to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

2. Remove all of the shop towels from the oil pan opening.

3. NOTICE:Any coolant that has accumulated in the oil pan must be drained from the pan and any residual coolant cleaned from the front of the engine and oil pan. Failure to remove all traces of the coolant can result in oil contamination and severe engine damage.

Remove the oil pan drain plug and allow any accumulated coolant to drain.
- Remove any residual coolant from the front of the engine and the oil pan using regulated compressed air and clean lint-free shop towels.
- Install the oil pan drain plug and tighten to 27 Nm (20 lb-ft).

Pic 20

4. Loosen the RH primary timing chain guide upper bolt.
- Position the RH primary timing chain guide and install the lower bolt.
- Tighten the 2 bolts to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Pic 21

5. Install the primary timing chain with the colored links aligned with the timing marks on the VCT assemblies and the crankshaft sprocket.

Pic 22

6. Install the upper LH primary timing chain guide and the 2 bolts.
- Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Pic 23

7. Install the lower LH primary timing chain guide and the 2 bolts.
- Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Pic 24

8. Install the primary timing chain tensioner arm.

Pic 25

9. Reset the primary timing chain tensioner.
- Rotate the lever counterclockwise.
- Using a soft-jawed vise, compress the plunger.
- Align the hole in the lever with the hole in the tensioner housing.
- Install a suitable lock pin.

Pic 26

10. NOTE: It may be necessary to rotate the crankshaft slightly to remove slack from the timing chain and install the tensioner.

Install the primary tensioner and the 2 bolts.
- Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).
- Remove the lock pin.

Pic 27

11. As a post-check, verify correct alignment of all timing marks.
- There are 38 links in between the RH intake VCT assembly colored link (1) and the LH intake VCT assembly colored link (2).
- There are 27 links in between LH intake VCT assembly colored link (2) and the crankshaft sprocket link (3).

Pic 28

12. Inspect the VCT housing seal for damage and replace as necessary.

Pic 29

13. NOTICE: Make sure the dowels on the Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT) housing are fully engaged in the cylinder head prior to tightening the bolts. Failure to follow this process will result in severe engine damage.

Install the LH VCT housing and the 3 bolts.
- Tighten in the sequence shown to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Pic 30

14. NOTICE: Make sure the dowels on the Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT) housing are fully engaged in the cylinder head prior to tightening the bolts. Failure to follow this process will result in severe engine damage.

Install the RH VCT housing and the 3 bolts.
- Tighten in the sequence shown to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

15. NOTE: Lubricate the engine oil filter gasket with clean engine oil prior to installing the oil filter.

Install a new engine oil filter.
- Tighten to 5 Nm (44 lb-in) and then rotate an additional 180 degrees.
16. Install the engine front cover.
17. Fill and bleed the cooling system.

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I hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
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