Brakes suddenly stopped working?

Tiny
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Hello,

I took my husband’s car to take the kids to practice and after pulling out of the drive way, I pressed the brake so I could slightly readjust the seat. While my foot was on the brake pedal the brake pedal seemed to release suddenly and the pedal moved all the way down. Thought it was odd, so I drove a little further down our street and pressed the brake pedal again. While the car slowed down some, it definitely didn’t stop as fast as it normally would. So, I carefully turned around a pulled back into my driveway to call my husband. While my husband came outside, I pressed the brake pedal again a couple times and could hear air every time I pressed down (sounded like an air pump). When my husband got in the car, I walked around to the passenger side and noticed a puddle of fluid leaking out. My husband said he suspected it was brake fluid. Shortly after, he turned the car off and pressed the brake pedal and we could hear air hissing from the outside of the car and also on the passenger side. Upon turning the car back on, a light in his car came on to indicate that the brake fluid was low. I assume it’s not safe to drive the car to the shop, but any ideas as to what just happened?
Tuesday, March 12th, 2024 AT 6:31 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Either a steel brake hose has rusted through, a rubber brake hose that attaches to the brake caliper has ruptured, or there is an issue with the brake caliper.

I don't recommend driving it like this unless you can drive really slowly (under 20 MPH), the parking brake is working properly, and you still have some brake usage.

Keep in mind, the brake fluid from the master cylinder will empty and basically, you will not have much at all as far as braking.

I attached two pics below showing the steel brake line (S), rubber brake hose (R) and the brake caliper. These are located behind the wheel. Check to see if you can determine where the leak is coming from. If it is the rubber hose, we can take care of that somewhat easily. The steel line will require more time and effort.

Let me know. Also, the more I think about it, you shouldn't drive it regardless of the aforementioned suggestion.

Let me know what you find and if I can help.

Take care,

Joe

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Tuesday, March 12th, 2024 AT 6:46 PM
Tiny
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Appreciate the quick response!

I let my husband read it. He’ll try to look in a few, but since his car is parked outside, it might have to wait until tomorrow since it’s dark outside now. Either way, I’ll get back to you once he’s able to take a good look and see what he finds. In the meantime, thank you for pointing out where exactly we need to look!
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Tuesday, March 12th, 2024 AT 7:04 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

You are very welcome. Let me know what he finds. If it is the rubber brake hose, we should be able to do that in your driveway. It's not a big job. The worst part is bleeding the system once the new hose is installed.

Let me know.

Take care,

Joe
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Tuesday, March 12th, 2024 AT 7:38 PM
Tiny
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Hi again,

I apologize I don’t know what it’s called (though I’m sure you told me), but my husband discovered this piece is what leaking and is cracked at the top which is slightly visible in the picture when looking closely.

Thanks again for your help!
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Wednesday, March 13th, 2024 AT 3:04 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Yep, that's the rubber brake hose. It runs from the steel brake line to the brake caliper.

If you want to do it yourself, contact any auto parts store and tell them you need the rubber brake hose for the right front (passenger side).

Once you get it, the hose will unbolt from the steel line and the caliper. It is important to make sure everything is clean and tight when you install the new one.

Once the new one is installed, you will need to bleed the brake system to eliminate any air that entered the system. If the brake master cylinder is empty from leaking, you will need a scan tool to bleed the ABS system.

Step one would be to manually bleed the brakes. See pics 1-4. If the brake master cylinder did not fully drain, you may get away with doing the basic manual bleed. Note: This will take two people to do.

If you complete the base bleed and the brake pedal is soft or doesn't feel right, then the ABS bleed procedure will need to be performed. You will need a scan tool and pressure bleeder for this. That is something most people don't own. However, I did add the directions. See pics 5 - 6.

Let me know if this helps or if you have any questions.

Take care,

Joe

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Wednesday, March 13th, 2024 AT 6:47 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for this!

I’ll reach back out if we have further questions. :)
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Wednesday, March 13th, 2024 AT 6:53 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

You are very welcome. Let me know if I can help in any way. Also, I found a few pics showing where the hose attaches at each end. I don't know if you need them but figured it may help.

Take care and let me know how things work out for you.

Joe

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Wednesday, March 13th, 2024 AT 7:07 PM

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