Brake pedal fades to the floor?

Tiny
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  • 2007 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA
  • 2.5L
  • 5 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 103,000 MILES
The car listed above belonged to my father who passed 3 years ago, and it has been sitting in the driveway of my mother's house since then.
I have driven it a few miles once a month trying to keep the battery charging, oil moving, and rotors from seizing, but the disuse has clearly taken its toll.
Recently, I have been trying to put it back on the road. Have replaced all of the rear brake hardware; rotors, calipers, pads, and e-brake rigging. Have bled and bled and bled the rear lines, then the front lines as well, but the brakes now fade to the floor once I start the engine and the power booster kicks in.
Will somewhat hold pedal pressure with engine off, but once started, fades really quick. It can be recovered with a few quick pumps of the brake pedal, but just fades to the floor with a long hard press.
Thinking of the master cylinder next, but not used to VWs, and don't want to do a lot of Hail Mary replacements before somebody who knows VW better can judge on this right track/wrong track thing.
What is my real problem here?
Thanks
Wednesday, November 29th, 2023 AT 10:45 PM

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Tiny
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I am sorry to hear about your father. yes, it does sound like the brake master has gone bad, but to be sure you can gently squeeze off the brake flex lines to see if the brake pedal holds, if not for sure the brake master is bad. here is a guide to help and I have included a video and guide to help you change out the brake master with instructions in the images below for your car.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-pedal-goes-to-the-floor

and

https://youtu.be/WDxvEQrMkBg?si=xx_fBhHzKalgmVHH

Here is a generic guide to help you step by step with instructions in the diagrams below to show you how on your car:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-brake-master-cylinder

Also, can I ask if you opened the ABS valve with a scanner to help get the air out of the ABS controller?

https://youtu.be/nQRnKyVyMuQ?si=_9dJBjnsetsusK-S

Check out the images (below). Please upload pictures or videos of the problem so we can see what's going on.
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Thursday, November 30th, 2023 AT 2:11 PM

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