I asked my husband if it could be the thermostat.

Tiny
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I asked my husband if it could be the thermostat, but he said that on the temperature gauge that it would show that it is getting hot. And it doesn't. The gauge never moves. So it isn't getting hot. The dealer said that the anti-freeze was probably low. And it wasn't.
Thursday, March 21st, 2013 AT 7:00 AM

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Tiny
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What's the problem? By "never moves" do you mean the gauge stays on "cold" or it goes to normal when the engine warms up and stays there? Does the heater blow hot air?
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Thursday, March 21st, 2013 AT 7:10 AM
Tiny
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I mean it just stays at the normal spot after the engine warms up. It doesn't get hot. The heater will blow hot air for awhile, then it blows lukewarm to cool air. It actually goes back and forth a coupel of times. I just keep it in the off position and close the vents so it doesn't blow the cool air on me. I work swing shift and live in Utah, so that is very cold at 2am. We've had it for almost 2 years now, and this is the first problem we've had.
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Friday, March 22nd, 2013 AT 5:15 AM
Tiny
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Dandy. So it would appear the engine is staying at the proper temperature and just the heater is getting cold. Since you get good heat at times it is unlikely the heater core is plugged. The next time it's heating well, stop and feel the two heater hoses under the hood. You'll find they are too hot to hold onto for very long. Feel them again when the air from the heater gets cool. If they are still real hot, that suggests a problem with the actuators in the heater box or the controls. Usually those fail completely and don't start working once in a while.

It is more likely you're going to find the heater hoses are cooled off when the heater air gets cold. That is due to lack of good circulation. The dealer was right to suggest low coolant level as the first suspect. Feel the upper radiator hose. If that is much hotter than the heater hoses, the belt could be slipping on the water pump. On some engines it is driven by the timing belt and that belt could be worn and starting to become loose.

You may also want to consider a leaking cylinder head gasket. Exhaust gas can sneak into the cooling system and pool under the thermostat. Thermostats open in response to hot liquid, not hot air. If it closes a little there may be enough circulation to keep the engine cool but not enough to force hot coolant through the heater core. Typically you'll see air bubbles in the coolant reservoir. Your mechanic can do a chemical test at the radiator or reservoir to check for a leaking head gasket.

If the radiator hose gets cool too, you can still suspect the thermostat even though the temperature gauge reads normal. On some engines the temperature sensor for the gauge is not close to the thermostat and it takes its reading in a different area. Sometimes you can pinch the radiator hose closed for a minute or two. If the heater starts blowing hotter air, replace the thermostat.
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Friday, March 22nd, 2013 AT 12:27 PM
Tiny
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Okay, I printed the answer and I am going to give it to my husband so he can check it out this weekend. Thank you!
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Saturday, March 23rd, 2013 AT 12:32 AM

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