Runs rough and shakes when car is warm

Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 1990 MERCURY MARQUIS
  • 130,000 MILES
1990 mercury grand marquis. Runs rough and shakes when car is warm especially going up hills. Put on new distributor car was worse. Only 6000 miles on spark plugs and wires.
when car is cold car runs much better
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 5:22 AM

22 Replies

Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
The age of the wires doesn't guarantee anything. The wire could be damaged or burnt and the plug could have been cracked during installation. The first thing that needs to be done is to isolate which cylinder is causing the problem.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 5:59 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
How do you isolate which cylinder is causing the problem?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 6:07 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
That will require equipment and experience which I suspect you don't have either of. You're probably going to need a shop to help you with that.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 6:53 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Is it bad to use Bosch Platinum +4 in a 1990 mercury grand marquis?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 7:31 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
Yes, very bad. Use Motorcraft only
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 7:48 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Could you tell me why they are bad
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 8:16 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
They are nothing but gimmick that the car was not designed for and they do not work in a Ford engine. NEVER put ANY Bosch plugs in a Ford.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Tuesday, September 10th, 2013 AT 7:08 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Ok, replaced plugs with autolites, wires, distributor, map sensor, coil.
Idle is rough almost missing. Car bucks wildly when plugging in spout connector for electronic timing advance
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 5:43 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
So, it only runs bad when the spout connector is in place?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 5:47 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Yes the problem only occurs with the spout connector in place.
New distributor timing advances about 20 degrees, old distributor timing advanced 4 degrees when plugging in spout connector.
New distributor much worse than old due to incease in advance timing I assume. What computer sensors could be feeding the wrong signal to the computer.
Throttle position sensor?
Coolant temp sensor?
Problem amplified when engine is hot after driving at least 7 miles
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 6:02 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
Did the new distributor include an ignition module?
Was the problem the same before and after the distributor?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 6:12 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Yes, worse after the new, not remanufactured distributor
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 6:43 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
It seems obvious that there is some kind of issue with the new distributor. If you still have the old one, try swapping the ignition modules.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 6:52 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
We already tried that
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 7:01 AM
Tiny
PERTPAT
  • MEMBER
  • 9 POSTS
Its doing the same with the old one too
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 7:02 AM
Tiny
WRENCHTECH
  • MECHANIC
  • 20,758 POSTS
Then I suggest you let a professional look at it. There is only so much that can be done without seeing the car.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Friday, September 13th, 2013 AT 7:16 AM
Tiny
JERRY LAITINEN
  • MEMBER
  • 5 POSTS
My question for PERTPAT is did you ever resolve this issue? I have 140,000 miles on my 1990 Mercury Grand Marquis with similar issues that I cannot diagnose myself. I am down to inspecting the wiring harness by individual wires. Nothing else has worked.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Sunday, November 17th, 2019 AT 6:04 PM
Tiny
KEN L
  • MASTER CERTIFIED MECHANIC
  • 47,256 POSTS
Hello,

I have seen the engine coolant temperature sensor cause this issue. here is a guide to help walk you through the steps:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/coolant-temperature-sensor-cts-replacement

Please run this test and get back to us.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, November 20th, 2019 AT 7:29 PM
Tiny
JERRY LAITINEN
  • MEMBER
  • 5 POSTS
Thank you, even though the coolant temperature sensor fell apart in my hands and I replaced it. The problem was still not resolved. I have an update though. There seems to be some issues with the aftermarket distributors for these engines. After two attempts with 2 car quest distributors I’m trying a Cardone distributor when it arrives tomorrow.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, November 20th, 2019 AT 7:41 PM
Tiny
KEN L
  • MASTER CERTIFIED MECHANIC
  • 47,256 POSTS
Okay, sounds good. That can cause the issue, please let us know what happens with the new distributor.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Thursday, November 21st, 2019 AT 12:39 PM

Please login or register to post a reply.

Sponsored links