why does my truck die when i put the clutch in?

1985 ISUZU TRUCK
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ill be driveing need to shift and if i dont do it really fast it dies on me and ive checked the vacuum hoses and there all good and the idle is turned up and i dont know whats wrong!!!
Dec 30, 2011 at 10:36 PM
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What liter engine?
Dec 30, 2011 at 10:46 PM
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Check for vacuum leaks and low fuel pressure.
Dec 30, 2011 at 10:53 PM
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Did you get PM?
Dec 30, 2011 at 10:56 PM
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yes.
Dec 30, 2011 at 11:21 PM
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its a 1.9 liter and i already checked the vacuum hoses, Whats "P" and how do u check the fuel pressure?
Dec 31, 2011 at 12:11 AM
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With a fuel pressure gauge that you rent or borrow from a parts store. Hoses aren't the only sources of vacuum leaks. Intake manifold gaskets. Cracked intake manifold. Carburetor or throttle body gaskets. Cracked throttle body. Leaking seal on brake booster. Etc.
Dec 31, 2011 at 12:30 AM
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all the gaskets r good i replaced those
what is the most likely possibility
Dec 31, 2011 at 2:16 AM
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Does it idle without using the throttle? Spray carb cleaner anywhere a vacuum leak is likely. Unbolt the brake master cylinder from the booster and see if you hear a hissing sound.
Dec 31, 2011 at 3:10 AM
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when u first start it yes it can just idle but after you start to go and then u have to start stoping it like i dont know. like on my way home i go bout 50 mph and when i have to turn onto my road i put the clutch in and then wait like 5-10 seconds and it dies also i just put a rebuild on the carb could it be that it dosnt have enough gas going through it completly yet?
Dec 31, 2011 at 3:41 AM
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Ahah! I'm guessing the carburetor is incorrectly adjusted. Either the bowl float isn't adjusted right, the idle mixture is way off, or the idle jets are clogged.
Dec 31, 2011 at 4:01 AM
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oh also i have it straight piped so could no back pressure be an issue
Jan 3, 2012 at 3:03 AM
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See my last post.
Jan 3, 2012 at 3:47 AM
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yeah i know i looked at all that already and its fine
Jan 3, 2012 at 3:51 AM
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Pull the plugs and take a look at them. What color are they? YOu adjusted the needle valve(s) on the throttle plate? I don't mean the idle speed adjustment on the throttle linkage.
Jan 3, 2012 at 3:58 AM
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the plugs are good and no i dont know how to adjust those im 16 and this is my first truck you get me back and fourth and so i can work on it so im just learning alot of new stuff
Jan 3, 2012 at 4:03 AM
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What do you mean by 'the plugs are good'? How old are they? What color are they?

On the very bottom of the carburetor, probably on the front, but maybe one of the sides, you'll see a small screw. That is the idle mixture screw. It adjusts the amount of fuel that is allowed into the throat of the carburetor at idle. Close it until the engine starts acting badly. Then back it off one quarter turn. You want to turn the idle speed down some before doing this step.

OK. HOLD THE PHONE! Look at the attached image. It'll help you locate the idle mixture screw and may explain why you can't locate it right not. It's covered by a plug.
TUNE-UP - 4-CYL -1985 Isuzu Pickup
Page 1 of 1
IDLE MIXTURE

NOTE:
Mixture adjustment is NOT a part of a normal tune-up procedure and should not be performed unless carburetor is overhauled, fuel injection
system components are replaced, or vehicle fails emissions testing.
1.
Set parking brake and block drive wheels. Place transmission in Neutral. Remove carburetor from vehicle.
On all other models, drill a hole in seal plug and remove. Remove shavings with compressed air. Install carburetor.
On all models, disconnect and plug distributor vacuum hose, canister purge line and EGR vacuum line. Disable idle compensator vacuum line by pinching rubber hose. With engine at normal
operating temperature, choke open and A/C off (if equipped), adjust idle speed.
Connect positive lead of dwell meter or duty meter to duty monitor. Ground negative terminal. Turn idle mixture screw in all the way. Back out 1 1/2 turns.
2.
3.
4.
Fig. 3: Removing Mixture Screw Plug
5.
Adjust throttle adjusting screw to specified RPM. See IDLE SPEED SPECIFICATION table in this article. Check meter and ensure that dwell is varying. Adjust setting of idle mixture screw to obtain
an average dwell or duty as specified.
Reset throttle adjusting screw. Put idle mixture screw plug back in place. If equipped with A/C, follow steps 3) and 4) of IDLE SPEED ADJUSTMENT.
6.
DWELL OR DUTY METER SETTING Application
Dwell Meter Duty Meter
Setting 36°
40%
Federal

1.
Set parking brake and block drive wheels. Place transmission in Neutral. Remove carburetor from vehicle. Drill a hole in plug and remove. Remove shavings with compressed air. Install carburetor.
Disconnect and plug distributor vacuum hose, canister purge line and EGR vacuum line. Disable idle compensator vacuum line by bending rubber hose. With engine at normal operating temperature, choke open and A/C off (if equipped).
Adjust idle speed screw to 750-850 RPM on man. trans. or 850-950 RPM on auto. trans. Turn idle mixture screw in all the way and back out 3 turns. Adjust throttle screw to 800 RPM on man. trans.
and 900 RPM on auto. trans.
Adjust idle mixture screw to achieve maximum speed. Reset idle speed screw to 850 RPM on man. trans. and 950 RPM on auto. trans.
Turn idle mixture screw clockwise (lean) until engine speed is down to 750-850 RPM on man. trans. and 850-950 RPM on auto. trans. Replace idle mixture screw plug. If equipped with A/C, follow
steps 3) and 4) of IDLE SPEED ADJUSTMENT.

© 2008 Mitchell Repair Information Co., LLC.
Jan 3, 2012 at 5:01 AM
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the plugs are not even a year old and they are a goldish color. and thanks i know exactly where that is also what if i dont have a tachometer
Jan 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM
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also you have two number "1" and one says back out 1 1\2 turns and the other back out three turns so im confused now
Jan 3, 2012 at 5:41 AM
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The book isn't very clear, but I believe the first section is for California-equipped vehicles and the second is for non-CA cars. You should be able to borrow a dwell meter, tachometer, or timing light with tach from somewhere like O'Reilly's, Autozone, Advanced, etc. I just set it by ear, personally.
Jan 3, 2012 at 6:13 AM
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ok so i went outside and there wasn't a plug but i screwed it all the way in and it took 4 turns to go all the way in and then i pulled it out 3 so it should be fixed now right?
Jan 3, 2012 at 6:17 AM
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4 turns? Holy......it was almost all the way out. Full revolutions? You need to feel and listen to the engine as you're adjusting the mixture. Old school way to adjust is to turn the idle speed down some, and thread the mixture screw in until the engine begins to stumble. Then back off one quarter revolution. Then readjust the idle speed.
Jan 3, 2012 at 7:09 AM
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Oh wow i didnt think it was that bad! and ok i will do that. thankyou for all your help
Jan 3, 2012 at 7:13 AM
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My pleasure.
Jan 3, 2012 at 7:28 AM
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Ok i ajustded the mixture screw to three back out and it runs good but now it runns konda high and i have to warm it up alot before it can go without dieing on me
Jan 4, 2012 at 2:19 AM
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high idle? Turn down the idle speed.
Is 3 turns out the lowest amount before the engine begins to stumble? It should be turned in until the engine begins to stumble and then turned out one quarter revolution.
Jan 4, 2012 at 3:21 AM
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It was weird i turned it in and it never stumbled at all
Jan 4, 2012 at 3:42 AM
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That is weird. The engine should die when the idle mixture screw is screwed in all the way. It's supposed to shut the supply of fuel off at idle. Or very close to off.
Jan 4, 2012 at 4:18 AM
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So what do u think i shiould do now?
Jan 4, 2012 at 4:43 AM
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So where are we now? We've adjusted the idle mix pretty close to exactly where it should be. But the idle is still high. Have you turned down the idle speed yet? The one on the throttle linkage side....Once you get it into the right engine speed range, check and adjust the timing.
Jan 4, 2012 at 5:34 AM
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Yes ive adjusted that and its like basically not even tuning it down anymore and i dont know how to adjust the timing
Jan 4, 2012 at 5:50 AM
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Preferably you would have a timing light. Turn the engine until you can see the mark on the crank pulley and mark it. Remove the vacuum line from the distributor and plug it.
Loosen the bolt on the distributor hold down. Clamp the magnetic pickup to #1 plug wire and power leads to the battery. Point the timing light at the crank pulley. Look for the mark on the crank pulley and read the timing scale. Timing should be 8 degrees. Once you have it set, re-tighten the distributor hold down bolt.
Jan 4, 2012 at 6:15 AM
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I have a timing chain so does that affect it or is it still the same process?
Jan 4, 2012 at 6:28 AM
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same process.
Jan 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM
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Ok so ill do that when i have the time and then get back to you
Jan 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM
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I'll be here.
Jan 4, 2012 at 7:32 AM